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This question may sound a bit stupid, but I can not really see the difference between redirection and pipes.



Redirection is used to redirect the stdout/stdin/stderr, e.g. ls > log.txt.



Pipes are used to give the output of a command as input to another command, e.g. ls | grep file.txt.



But why are there two operators for the same thing?



Why not just write ls > grep to pass the output through, isn't this just a kind of redirection also? What I am missing?


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Pipe is used to pass output to another program or utility.



Redirect is used to pass output to either a file or stream.



Example: thing1 > thing2 vs thing1 | thing2



thing1 > thing2




  1. Your shell will run the program named thing1

  2. Everything that thing1 outputs will be placed in a file called thing2. (Note - if thing2 exists, it will be overwritten)



If you want to pass the output from program thing1 to a program called thing2, you could do the following:



thing1 > temp_file && thing2 < temp_file



which would




  1. run program named thing1

  2. save the output into a file named temp_file

  3. run program named thing2, pretending that the person at the keyboard typed the contents of temp_file as the input.



However, that's clunky, so they made pipes as a simpler way to do that. thing1 | thing2 does the same thing as thing1 > temp_file && thing2 < temp_file



EDIT to provide more details to question in comment:



If > tried to be both "pass to program" and "write to file", it could cause problems in both directions.



First example: You are trying to write to a file. There already exists a file with that name that you wish to overwrite. However, the file is executable. Presumably, it would try to execute this file, passing the input. You'd have to do something like write the output to a new filename, then rename the file.



Second example: As Florian Diesch pointed out, what if there's another command elsewhere in the system with the same name (that is in the execute path). If you intended to make a file with that name in your current folder, you'd be stuck.



Thirdly: if you mis-type a command, it wouldn't warn you that the command doesn't exist. Right now, if you type ls | gerp log.txt it will tell you bash: gerp: command not found. If > meant both, it would simply create a new file for you (then warn it doesn't know what to do with log.txt).


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