I've already tried doing what was listed here: Update manager: "A problem occurred when checking for the updates" but it didnt work.

Every time I click on the red circle with the line through it the update manager pops up and then goes away.

When I try to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

here's the output:

Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease

Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease                                      

Get:1 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B]                          

Ign http://archive.getdeb.net natty-getdeb InRelease                           

Get:2 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B]                          

Get:3 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1,347 B]                            

Ign http://archive.canonical.com natty InRelease                               

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty InRelease                               

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates InRelease                       

Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com natty InRelease                                   

Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com natty InRelease                                  

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty InRelease                                   

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty InRelease                                   

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security InRelease                        

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty InRelease                                   

Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org natty InRelease                              

Hit http://deb.torproject.org natty InRelease                                  

Get:4 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1,347 B]                            

Get:5 http://dl.google.com stable/main i386 Packages [1,214 B]                 

Hit http://archive.canonical.com natty Release.gpg                             

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty Release.gpg                             

Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com natty Release.gpg                                 

Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com natty Release.gpg                                

Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main TranslationIndex                          

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty InRelease                                   

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty InRelease                                   

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty InRelease                                   

Hit http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security Release.gpg                      

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release.gpg                                 

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release.gpg                                 

Hit http://archive.getdeb.net natty-getdeb Release.gpg                         

Ign http://deb.paissad.net unstable InRelease                                  

Get:6 http://dl.google.com stable/main i386 Packages [765 B]                   

Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main TranslationIndex                          

Hit http://archive.canonical.com natty Release                                 

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates Release.gpg                     

Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com natty Release                                     

Hit http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security Release                          

Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com natty Release                                    

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release.gpg                                 

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release.gpg                                 

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release.gpg                                 

Hit http://deb.paissad.net unstable Release.gpg                                

Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org natty/free i386 Packages                     

Hit http://deb.torproject.org natty/main Sources                               

Hit http://archive.getdeb.net natty-getdeb Release                             

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty Release                                 

Hit http://archive.canonical.com natty/partner i386 Packages                   

Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com natty/main Sources                                

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release.gpg                                 

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release                                     

Hit http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/restricted Sources               

Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com natty/main Sources                               

Hit http://deb.paissad.net unstable Release                                    

Ign http://archive.canonical.com natty/partner TranslationIndex                

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates Release                         

Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com natty/main i386 Packages                          

Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com natty/main TranslationIndex                       

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release                                     

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release                                     

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release                                     

Hit http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/main Sources                     

Hit http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/multiverse Sources               

Hit http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/universe Sources                 

Hit http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/main i386 Packages               

Hit http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/restricted i386 Packages         

Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com natty/restricted Sources                         

Hit http://archive.getdeb.net natty-getdeb/games i386 Packages                 

Hit http://deb.paissad.net unstable/main Sources                               

Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org natty/non-free i386 Packages                 

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/restricted Sources                      

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/main Sources                            

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/multiverse Sources                      

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/universe Sources                        

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/main i386 Packages                      

Hit http://deb.torproject.org natty/main i386 Packages                         

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release                                     

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release                                     

Hit http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/multiverse i386 Packages         

Hit http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/universe i386 Packages           

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/main TranslationIndex            

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/multiverse TranslationIndex      

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/restricted TranslationIndex      

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/universe TranslationIndex        

Hit http://deb.paissad.net unstable/contrib Sources                            

Hit http://deb.paissad.net unstable/non-free Sources                           

Hit http://deb.paissad.net unstable/main i386 Packages                         

Hit http://deb.paissad.net unstable/contrib i386 Packages                      

Hit http://deb.paissad.net unstable/non-free i386 Packages                     

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/restricted i386 Packages                

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/multiverse i386 Packages                

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/universe i386 Packages                  

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/main TranslationIndex                   

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/multiverse TranslationIndex             

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/restricted TranslationIndex             

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/universe TranslationIndex               

Ign http://archive.getdeb.net natty-getdeb/games TranslationIndex              

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources                                

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main i386 Packages                          

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main TranslationIndex                       

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources                                

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main i386 Packages                          

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main TranslationIndex                       

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources                                

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main i386 Packages                          

Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en_US                         

Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en                            

Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en_US                         

Ign http://deb.paissad.net unstable/contrib TranslationIndex                   

Ign http://deb.paissad.net unstable/main TranslationIndex                      

Ign http://deb.paissad.net unstable/non-free TranslationIndex                  

Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org natty/free TranslationIndex                  

Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en                            

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/restricted Sources              

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/main Sources                    

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/multiverse Sources              

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/universe Sources                

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/main i386 Packages              

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/restricted i386 Packages        

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/multiverse i386 Packages        

Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/universe i386 Packages          

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main TranslationIndex                       

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources                                

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main i386 Packages                          

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main TranslationIndex                       

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources                                

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main i386 Packages                          

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main TranslationIndex                       

Ign http://deb.torproject.org natty/main TranslationIndex                      

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/main TranslationIndex           

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/multiverse TranslationIndex     

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/restricted TranslationIndex     

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/universe TranslationIndex       

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources                                

Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main i386 Packages                          

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main TranslationIndex                       

Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org natty/non-free TranslationIndex              

Ign http://archive.canonical.com natty/partner Translation-en_US               

Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com natty/main Translation-en_US                      

Ign http://archive.canonical.com natty/partner Translation-en                  

Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com natty/main Translation-en                         

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en_US                      

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en                         

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en_US                      

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en                         

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en_US                      

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en                         

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en_US                      

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/main Translation-en_US           

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/main Translation-en              

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en                         

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en_US                      

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en                         

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/multiverse Translation-en_US     

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/multiverse Translation-en        

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/restricted Translation-en_US     

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/main Translation-en_US                  

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/main Translation-en                     

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en_US                      

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Translation-en                         

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/restricted Translation-en        

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/universe Translation-en_US       

Ign http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/universe Translation-en          

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/multiverse Translation-en_US            

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/multiverse Translation-en               

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/restricted Translation-en_US            

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/restricted Translation-en               

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/universe Translation-en_US              

Ign http://deb.paissad.net unstable/contrib Translation-en_US                  

Ign http://deb.paissad.net unstable/contrib Translation-en                     

Ign http://deb.paissad.net unstable/main Translation-en_US                     

Ign http://deb.paissad.net unstable/main Translation-en                        

Ign http://deb.paissad.net unstable/non-free Translation-en_US                 

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty/universe Translation-en                 

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/main Translation-en_US          

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/main Translation-en             

Ign http://deb.paissad.net unstable/non-free Translation-en                    

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US    

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/multiverse Translation-en       

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/restricted Translation-en_US    

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/restricted Translation-en       

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/universe Translation-en_US      

Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/universe Translation-en         

Ign http://archive.getdeb.net natty-getdeb/games Translation-en_US             

Ign http://archive.getdeb.net natty-getdeb/games Translation-en                

Ign http://deb.torproject.org natty/main Translation-en_US                 

Ign http://deb.torproject.org natty/main Translation-en

Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org natty/free Translation-en_US                 

Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org natty/free Translation-en                    

Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org natty/non-free Translation-en_US             

Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org natty/non-free Translation-en                

Fetched 5,069 B in 9s (544 B/s)                                                

Reading package lists... Done

Reading package lists... Done

alex@griever:~$ ncy tree... 50%

and stops there.... doesnt move past that..

anyone have any advice?