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apt-mark showmanual lists a lot of packages for me:


root@hcompneu:~# apt-mark showmanual | wc -l
4013
root@hcompneu:~# apt-mark showmanual | head
a11y-profile-manager-indicator
abiword
abiword-common
abiword-plugin-grammar
account-plugin-facebook
account-plugin-flickr
account-plugin-google
account-plugin-identica
account-plugin-twitter
accountsservice
root@hcompneu:~# apt-mark showmanual | tail
yelp-xsl
zeitgeist
zeitgeist-core
zeitgeist-datahub
zenity
zenity-common
zip
zlib1g
zlib1g-dev
zlib1g:i386

As I understand, it should only list those packages which I manually installed. I don't remember in each case anymore but I'm pretty sure I did not install all of those manually. Actually, I rarely installed any software on this system, despite Chrome, OpenOffice and some other very basic things. So I would expect a list of maybe 10-100 packages but not more. Maybe it also includes ubuntu-desktop, grub and linux or so from the base Ubuntu installation.


Maybe in the past though I wrote some scripts to fix up a broken system by automatically calling apt-get install XXX on various packages. Or maybe I did other things. I don't really remember anymore.


Could that be the case here? So I somehow messed it up? If that is the case, what would you suggest? Mark all to automatically installed, and then by hand add some selected packages like ubuntu-desktop?


Or is such output correct and I understand it wrongly? I read this and I'm not sure. It looks like it is much more complicated to get the list of manually installed packages? Or why is the answer so complicated?


Or is apt-mark showmanual buggy?




root@hcompneu:~# ls -ld /var/log/installer/
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dez 27 11:27 /var/log/installer/
root@hcompneu:~# grep -r cdrom /etc/apt/ --include=*.list
root@hcompneu:~# dpkg -l | grep ^ii | wc -l
3812

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TL;DR No, your system is not messed up. Moreover, you can leave all things as they are, so in the current state.


Let's consider three systems:




































Current System Installation media Age dpkg -l | grep ^ii | wc -l apt-mark showmanual | wc -l
Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS with MATE desktop(*) Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS 7 y.o. 5680 3953
Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS with MATE desktop(*) Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 11 y.o. 6395 3947
Yours Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (**) ~Ubuntu 8.04 LTS ~13 y.o. 3812 4013


Notes:



  • (*) my systems were originally installed from Ubuntu desktop installation disks, thus shipped with GNOME and/or Unity (not a flavour). Then I have installed MATE desktop using official PPAs for 12.04 LTS, 14.04 LTS and their meta-packages; then when 16.04 LTS were released I have re-installed MATE desktop as task package using commands like sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-desktop^. This installation of task package causes all such packages to be marked as manually installed and thus protects them from removal. All other software were installed manually during life-span of the both systems.

  • (**) the strange thing about your system is that you have total number of installed packages 3812 less than manually installed packages 4013. You have to investigate this using Synaptic.


I tried to conduct some research with fresh installations of old and new systems. Below is the table about clean installations of ordinary Ubuntu desktop ISOs.














































































Ubuntu version dpkg -l | grep ^ii | wc -l aptitude search '~i!~M' | wc -l apt-mark showmanual Synaptic: Status → Installed (manual)
6.06 LTS 1046 1046 n/a n/a
8.04 LTS 1102 1087 n/a n/a
10.04 LTS 1296 1286 n/a 1286
12.04 LTS 1392 1367 1367 1342
14.04 LTS 1722 1690 1690 1666
16.04 LTS 1745 220 220 195
18.04 LTS 1602 1557 1557 1529
20.04 LTS 1607 49 49 49
22.04 LTS (dev) 1700 44 44 31


We can understand here that functionality of Ubiquity installer and APT by itself have changes over time.


From the above table we can see that old systems have huge numbers of manually installed packages from their day 0 of installation.

Newer Ubuntu versions have smaller numbers, this ease their maintenance. They probably have more meta-packages installed which prevent package removal because of dependencies.


Another experiment I have done: I upgraded fresh Ubuntu installation from 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS → 12.04 LTS → 14.04 LTS → 18.04 LTS → 20.04 LTS and in the resulting 20.04.3 LTS system I have 1867 manually installed packages of 2913 total packages.


The "manual" installation status of package prevents its removal, so you should not set package as auto-installed.




Good resources to read:



  • Chapter 2. Debian package management of Debian Reference.



  • man apt-mark locally or online, the below quote is essential:



    apt-mark - show, set and unset various settings for a package

    [...]

    showmanual can be used in the same way as showauto except that it will print a list of manually installed packages instead.





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